How many times has Obama violated the Constitution/Bill of Rights?

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How many times has Obama violated the Constitution/Bill of Rights?

Post by Mr.blonde on Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:50 pm

The guy took an oath to uphold the constitution. Obama care violates the 10th amendment!

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Post by Mr.blonde on Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:53 pm

this is a great article right here btw :http://www.thelandofthefree.net/conservativeopinion/2009/02/24/obama-please-read-the-tenth-amendment-to-the-constitution/

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Post by Mr.blonde on Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:56 pm

Quote: “The powers not delegated to the United States [congress & president] by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

What this means in today’s terms is simply the president and congress have gone way beyond their constitutional authority according to the founding fathers mandates. This total disregard for the laws of the land aren’t in just this current stimulus bill but have been going on for the past 75 years since the first stimulus bill passed in 1933. Obama seems to be taking pride in the fact he’s dwarfing FDR’s records of the government wrestling power from the private sector. And why shouldn’t we be surprised, Obama never claimed he would be a president of the people for the people, he made it clear he was and would be his own man come hell or high water, [both hell and high water are here now, deal with it Mr. President.]

I have a nemesis and good friend, [almost PhD] Dr. Michelle Malsbury a grad-student in of one of Florida’s more popular Liberal Universities. Michelle’s fallen pray to the Obama [charm] mystique that government brings more prosperity to the country than a free market system. She openly believes socialism will return America to its former place in the worlds economic and social status. It’s beyond her comprehension that when the American financial markets collapsed the world’s financial stability collapsed at the same time because of what happened in America and it was not by coincidence, it was because as America goes so goes the world. She also refuses to recognize socialism has failed everywhere it’s ever been tried. She claims the European conglomerates are socialistic. They’re not, they’re simply grossly over-taxed and over-regulated. Otherwise they operate on the same free market concept as America. Not to worry Michelle’s heroes / heroins have been Bill and Hillary Clinton, Al and Tipper Gore, John and [what’s her name] Kerry, Teddy and [whoever’s there at the moment] Kennedy and now Barack and Michelle Obama, “Need I say more….?”


The intent of the 10th amendment was to assure people individually they have the opportunity and the right to manage their own lives. Not have a government mandate one size fits all and regulate society to conform to one standard. Obama isn’t the first man to sell the country a promise of Utopia in his time. It’s everyone’s wish to have a little more by doing a little less for it. That’s a political promise that can’t be fulfilled never has and never will be, the question is why do voters keep falling for the same old promises?

The entire constitution and the bill of rights is about opportunity and mans right to self determination, America was born from men / women seeking a nation of limited government. A government of the people, by the people for the people was unprecedented and thought by most an unworkable concept. Even the founding fathers weren’t sure it would work, When Ben Franklyn was ask what the Continental Congress had given us his reply was “a government if you can keep it.” so far we’ve, managed to keep it longer than any other government on earth with few exceptions. From 1812 until 1941 no nation had ever challenged the sovereignty of the United States, America stood as a beacon of strength to the world. For three centuries immigrants came by the millions none left nor did any American citizens. This all took place before there was a Barack Obama to inform us we’d been doing it wrong all these years.

It would be remiss of me not to cover the issue of slavery. Slavery was a blacks man’s invention, one that was exported to America by Europeans. Slavery still exists in Africa along with genocide and any number of other barbaric practices. Mr. Obama and his ilk are quick to point out the lack of opportunity for blacks in America with out recognizing blacks in America live better than blacks any where else in the world. If anything blacks have become the privileged few in America the rest [non minorities] have to work like hell to survive.

It’s been said words are the most lethal weapon the world has ever known. I tend to agree words often succeed where bombs fail.

The first Europeans who came to the new world were men craving adventure and riches. The next group were men and women craving freedom of expression and freedom of opportunity, [then riches.] They built a nation by struggling under the most sever circumstances, yet they built the nation. Then like now when the pot was full and seemed to be overflowing the politicians came along and insisted the people share with the less privileged, those persons who didn’t make the sacrifices helping fill the pot. There are two parasites no exterminator can eliminate, politicians and the deservedly poor.

It’s the duty of every voter in any election to know and at least be aware of the meanings of the issues. There are hundreds of ways of gathering the facts, political punditry is one if it’s heard with skepticism in mind. The best barometer of truth is the voters own good judgment, any thing they’ve heard before that hasn’t happened should be discarded as political hype. If voters vote their interests and not the parties interests things will change for the betterment of the public and not the party.

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Re: How many times has Obama violated the Constitution/Bill of Rights?

Post by hex535 on Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:06 pm

please use the edit button instead of multiposting.

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Re: How many times has Obama violated the Constitution/Bill of Rights?

Post by alexander224 on Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:36 pm

A couple of states are already sueing.

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Post by alexander224 on Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:57 pm

^Texas is one of them

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Post by hex535 on Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:00 pm

^ i lol'd

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Post by ElectricEYE on Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:13 pm

This is exactly how liberals acted whenever Bush passed legislation. Remember how the patriot act was going to turn America into a 1984 scenario? This is just the opposite party overreacting to something they disagree with

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Re: How many times has Obama violated the Constitution/Bill of Rights?

Post by speters17 on Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:15 pm

ElectricEYE wrote:This is exactly how liberals acted whenever Bush passed legislation. Remember how the patriot act was going to turn America into a 1984 scenario? This is just the opposite party overreacting to something they disagree with

going to?

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Re: How many times has Obama violated the Constitution/Bill of Rights?

Post by The Rudeboy on Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:30 pm

speters17 wrote:
ElectricEYE wrote:This is exactly how liberals acted whenever Bush passed legislation. Remember how the patriot act was going to turn America into a 1984 scenario? This is just the opposite party overreacting to something they disagree with

going to?

Fucking this.

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Post by kingofsin on Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:41 pm

america is that near washington?

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Re: How many times has Obama violated the Constitution/Bill of Rights?

Post by Seitzy on Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:00 pm

I don't know man, He seems like he's violated it a few times, but I think since Nixon, every President has.

think about it, Corruption of the government only took place after Nixon (of course there was corruption during the late 19th century). seems like the last good President was Lyndon Johnson if you ask me, maybe Regan, but he did make a lot of mistakes and doesn't exactly mesure up to the greats like Truman and Eisenhower etc.

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Re: How many times has Obama violated the Constitution/Bill of Rights?

Post by TexassaxeT on Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:18 pm

ElectricEYE wrote:This is exactly how liberals acted whenever Bush passed legislation. Remember how the patriot act was going to turn America into a 1984 scenario? This is just the opposite party overreacting to something they disagree with

Actually both parties are opposed to this, and might I say, reacting, rather than overreacting

Also if you want to talk about corruption, technically that started at John Adams with the Alien and Sedition Acts

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Re: How many times has Obama violated the Constitution/Bill of Rights?

Post by PuppetMaster on Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:32 pm

What exactly is the 10th amendment for? I never really researched it..
I dont see what's such a big problem with the health care.. seems to me americans just love to bitch about change..
Personally Im a fucking far leftest and a believer in marxist communism (with a few modifications) so as far as I know, I'm not to supportive of the 10th amendment.
But so you're saying that Obama is violation your constitutional rights by passing extended health care? What does everyone have against health care? I like to be healthy.. Kanada and France have been doing quite well with it..

Correct me if im wrong (and believe me, ill be wrong) but I dont understand why people want their individual freedom.. not in the sense that you are controlled.. but I think a liberal government, where programs like health care and post secondary are paid for is beneficial. The freedom for individuality is exactly the basis of capitalism, the indirect leading killer around the world.

So does someone (The Rudeboy or Gallows) want to tell me why the Health care program is a bad thing..
Sweden has a socialist government, and its pretty cool there.. the only problem with liberalism is the raise in taxes.. which is so minute compared to the individual price of post secondary school.
I think, if you're part of a functioning country, you should have to contribute. You can either pay taxes for others to contribute, or you can use the money raised by taxes to go to school and get an occupation then contribute. If you dont want to go to post secondary, and you dont want to pay taxes, tough luck.. (there was a bit of devils advocate in there, not all of the ideas stated were personal beliefs)

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Post by Murder Mouse on Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:34 pm

PuppetMaster wrote:What exactly is the 10th amendment for? I never really researched it..
I dont see what's such a big problem with the health care.. seems to me americans just love to bitch about change..
Personally Im a fucking far leftest and a believer in marxist communism (with a few modifications) so as far as I know, I'm not to supportive of the 10th amendment.
But so you're saying that Obama is violation your constitutional rights by passing extended health care? What does everyone have against health care? I like to be healthy.. Kanada and France have been doing quite well with it..

Correct me if im wrong (and believe me, ill be wrong) but I dont understand why people want their individual freedom.. not in the sense that you are controlled.. but I think a liberal government, where programs like health care and post secondary are paid for is beneficial. The freedom for individuality is exactly the basis of capitalism, the indirect leading killer around the world.

So does someone (The Rudeboy or Gallows) want to tell me why the Health care program is a bad thing..
Sweden has a socialist government, and its pretty cool there.. the only problem with liberalism is the raise in taxes.. which is so minute compared to the individual price of post secondary school.
I think, if you're part of a functioning country, you should have to contribute. You can either pay taxes for others to contribute, or you can use the money raised by taxes to go to school and get an occupation then contribute. If you dont want to go to post secondary, and you dont want to pay taxes, tough luck.. (there was a bit of devils advocate in there, not all of the ideas stated were personal beliefs)

Actually Sweden is a welfare state that follows the Scandinavian model (much like a lot of European countries). They haven't been Socialist since the 20s.

As far as the 10th Amendment, in short it's the guarantee to state sovereignty. It's a starting point for a lot of arguments whenever one party or another feels the feds are overstepping their bounds. However this has been revised throughout history for very important reasons. For example the 13th Amendment was needed to separate the right to state sovereignty from the right fuck over someone of a particular race/etc in your state because you feel as a sovereign state you have the right to enact racist laws. Furthermore Obama actually supported the 10th amendment by ending the raids on medical marijuana dispensaries within states where it's use is legal.

Sure there are plenty of things I don't like about Obama, but it's no more so than what I don't like about the Dems in general...and it's still a better state of affairs than just a couple short years ago.

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Re: How many times has Obama violated the Constitution/Bill of Rights?

Post by PuppetMaster on Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:15 am

In a lot of countries in africa, the witch doctors have told people that the only way to get rid of aids is to fuck a virgin, but because its hard to tell in a place like that who's pure and who's not, adult men will rape 2 year olds and even younger girls because its the only way to be sure they are still virgins.. resulting in not only fucked up kids.. but the spreading of aids..

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Post by WolfToCub on Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:19 am

Well that's fucked.

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Post by Mikehunt1 on Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:24 am

how many people did bush kill?

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Post by TACP_REAPER on Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:01 am

smart Americans oppose socialism because it doesn't work, its great to make everyone feel equal... and poor... cause thats the only way its fair is when your standing in ration lines waiting for your government hand outs... America is and has been since its founding, the greatest miracle this world has seen... we feed the world's poor... we stop little bitch fights around the world... but liberals want us to be like europeans... thats the reason we came here was to not be another european country, our founding fathers wanted us to have the life we want.. not the life the government says we should have... to make as much money as we want with unlimited opportunity, not to pay 74% of your money if your considered "rich" to the government... the budget is going to be completly eaten up by fucking entitlements to broke ass people and intrest on money we owe off the stupid Trillions obama has already spent... there will be no money left for defense spending or any other program... this country is being led down the shit road by leftists... this country would spring back ahead of the race if we cut spending to all these stupid programs and cut taxes, and lazy fuckers just went and got a job and stopped bitching about their welfare check...

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Re: How many times has Obama violated the Constitution/Bill of Rights?

Post by PuppetMaster on Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:05 am

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I'll argue that tomorrow when i dont have to blink every two seconds to see the screen clearly..

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Post by Guest on Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:07 am

TACP_REAPER wrote:America is and has been since its founding, the greatest miracle this world has seen...
according to Americans.
TACP_REAPER wrote:we feed the world's poor...
only because it's a large country. Actually the USA contributes very little as a % of income.

TACP_REAPER wrote:we stop little bitch fights around the world...
More so hegemony and it's the ZOG's wars not American's.
TACP_REAPER wrote:to make as much money as we want with unlimited opportunity
So that includes bank robbers? And bankers who are not too different...
TACP_REAPER wrote:not to pay 74% of your money if your considered "rich" to the government...
Denmark has the highest tax revenue as % of GDP and it's at most 50%. Note: not all taxes are blown on defence and spying like the American government.
TACP_REAPER wrote:lazy fuckers just went and got a job and stopped bitching about their welfare check...
The jobs aren't there.

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Re: How many times has Obama violated the Constitution/Bill of Rights?

Post by xxgerard on Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:01 pm

I lost count

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